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rivetcatcher
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 Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:51 am Post subject: Coopers Extract beats AG in taste test competition. |
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Hello gents,
Just a little bit of reading for you. There was a taste test carried out between various beer kits and an AG brew. Coopers extract kit actually won.
Heres the link:
http://www.homebrewersassociation.org./pages/zymurgy/online-extras/extract-wheat-beer-experiment
Rivet 
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chopster
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Thats good to hear cos I dont suppose I'll ever have the time to get in to all Grain (except maybe when I retire ) & there's still so many more kits to get through.
Its not the first time I have seen evidence suggesting that extract is every bit as good as all grain there's reference to it on you tube, mind you there's also plenty of retaliation from the allgrainers suggesting otherwise, I guess at the end of the day it's down to individual taste (one mans meat & all that).
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chris_reboot
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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there's no right and wrong.
I AG as I find it more interesting, and I like the idea of building from scratch.
That's not to say I make good beer though 
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drewthe brew
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | In mashing the all-grain beer, it did become stuck and the mash bed was loosened up with whole hops |
The clove and banana notes will come from the yeast so not sure why this would change so much between extract ad AG
I'm not going to be throwing away my mash tun based on this |
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PureGuiness
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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From my experience (I've done kits, extract and AG brewing), AG brews tend to win everytime over the kits I've done and I never found extract brews that good.
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drewthe brew
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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to quote Bill S
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chris_reboot
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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well, all I can say is make your own mind up.
if you've only ever made kits, give the extract method or AG a try.
only your own tastebuds will tell.
beer tasting is highly subjective.
one mans quality pint is another man's cat pi$$.
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rivetcatcher
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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Its still not going to put me off moving to AG either but it just shows how much the kits have came on over the years.
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chris_reboot
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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very true.
you'd like to think that kits are also very consistent too.
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PureGuiness
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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The benefit of brewing in bulk. Alot of commercial outfits will also blend brews together to help with consistency.
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bombrew
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| Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:13 am Post subject: |
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Kits are a bit like being handed the cake and told to put it in the oven,rather than adding the ingredients then baking it yourself.
However if the kits had not impoved dramatically,i would not have returned dabbling with them,and who knows time permitting one day i might be able to return to the dark side.
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drewthe brew
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| Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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Kits and brewing technique have moved on dramatically to the 70's.
You get a consistant pint from them, in much the same way as you get a consistant big mac wherever you go in the UK.
The taste is comparible to a pub pint but rareley does it blow you away |
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